This rally is an imitation of the NSM rally in Toledo.

Then it will flop. Save the Toledos for somewhere else.

National socialism leads. White cowards calling them "nationalists" but wanting to "play it safe" for "public relations" follow.

I believe in NS. Not all Whites do. That has naught to do with playing it safe.

Here's an idea -- why doesn't every over weight internet dork who dislikes the NSM come to the rally and try to kick our stormtroopers out, and then we can have a big scene in front of the camera where our stormtroopers are forced to stomp the living shit out of so-called "white activists" because they turn out to be more dangerous and divisive than the Jew?

I would say you are the divisive one. Are you trying to sabotage the rally by stupid statements like that?

LOL, I haven't seen one NSM guy in any pics yet that I think could kick my ass. And for me, the only thing better than sex is a good brawl. Nonetheless, fighting amongst ourselves is not very smart, milliondollarbill. So, I ask you once more, are you trying to sabotage this thing now with such inflammatory remarks? Your remarks are more dangerous than the jew. Cease and desist.

Those who object to NSM uniforms should stay home. White nationalism neither needs nor wants you.

Ah, you speak for all WN now, do you?

Lol, your Commander doesnt take the same view as you, you insubordinate ass. He is talking about unity and you are here talking about starting a brawl with your fellow Whites. What a dumbass. As eloquent as you speak about National Socialist political philosophy, you sure miss the mark in the common sense department. And spare us the "I made a million" garbage. We are not money grubbing jews here.

More unproductive and stupid statements. I tend to be sympathetic towards NSM but your bellligerent attitude is not winning NSM any friends and probably causes many of us that are sympathetic to be turned off.

With friends and members like you, NSM needs no enemies.

Go ahead and stick me on ignore. Before it is over with, everyone on VNN will be on your little list, unless they ban you first for such stupid comments like sucking the blood out of someone's circumcision.

Hey if you guys are so tough let's see you break the police lines. Anarchist punks do it all the time.

Break the lines, what ever for? They NEED those zogtroopers to protect them from the anarchist punks.

He is a pathetic bitch. NSM members are basically a gang, none of them will ever get in a one on one fight. A friend of mine once called-out Jeff Schoep on this very board, and instead of answering one of his sycophant comes in and says, "An attack on the COMMANDER is an attack on all of us."

Bitches the lot of them.

Yea, I can't believe I just saw Bull say, "only by the choice of the NSM". This justifies actively opposing them, imo. The antifa and police should be manipulated to keep them out, and rally be damned if that cancels out the whole thing: it will be worth just putting down Bull Weiss and his klown posse.

Can anyone find me a photo of Hitler and the SA being guarded by Weimar policemen against communist thugs? I doubt such a picture exists, because it never happened. From what I read Hitler's SA fought their own battles.

Every day of my life I struggle in some fight. The fight to rebuild the ruined neighborhoods of Roanoke, Virginia, is as much a struggle for the victory of national socialism as the physical fighting on the streets of Toledo.

Where did you physically "fight" anyone?

If you mean physically, though, how about the man who followed me to my house two months ago and pulled a gun on me because he didn't like my political views?

You wouldn't be bothered if I were to kindly ask for some evidence of this? Take your time, I'm currently fighting off a hoard of Dittoheads armed with pick-axes with a tripod-mounted .50 cal machine gun mounted on top of my bunker.

How about the group of communists who attacked me outside of my properties a year and a half ago because they did not like my political views?

See above.

How about the crack heads and scum that I spend my days clearing from ruined buildings?

You're right, I think I'm beginning to see. No way would a NON-"National Socialist" ever clear crackhead scum from properties that they own.

Every day of my life is a fight for something -- and not for domination of internet messageboards.

Wow, that sounds REALLY exciting!!! But...WHY are you HERE then? Especially when one of YOUR organization's members called for a boycott?! You think an organization that hands out military ranks would have a little more discipline and rigid structure.

Hey if you guys are so tough let's see you break the police lines. Anarchist punks do it all the time.

We do not fight the police. We stand for order against the forces of chaos, even when the forces of order are weak, poorly led, or confused.

However, if you question my "toughness", in 1997, as a leftist, I beat four Montgomery County Police Officers, three to the point of hospitalization, and served seven months for it, if that makes you feel better.

I also used to crash police lines for fun. Pictures of me doing so abound in news accounts (early edition of the Washington Post in Jan 1998 in Annapolis, FOX News TV video "riots break out during anti-war protests" in Dec 1998, there's a picture of me in Revolutionary Worker from Apr 1998, etc)

The point being that communist groups are criminal organizations. When I was part of them I fought the police. Since I abandoned the communist ideology and went straight, I stand on the side of order, as does the NSM.

Hey Bill my comment was a compliment, I just think that anything you guys do the media turns/spins around and makes it a "Hate" rally or whatever the jews like to use. Regardless Good Luck..... :cheers:

I didn't mean to direct that personally against you. Just against the approach people are taking on this board in general.

It is as if they would rather see us fight with white activists then join the real fight against the Jew and his multiculturalism.

Everything one says is used by White to bolster his ego. Someone had better make a plan to exclude the NSM, else refund your plane ticket (if you can): they'll just make it another sideshow.

He is a pathetic bitch. NSM members are basically a gang, none of them will ever get in a one on one fight. A friend of mine once called-out Jeff Schoep on this very board, and instead of answering one of his sycophant comes in and says, "An attack on the COMMANDER is an attack on all of us."

Bitches the lot of them.

Come down to Roanoke and find me. You won't be the first to have done so. Though if you attack me anywhere West of about seventh street, you'll have a riot on your hands.

We do not fight the police. We stand for order against the forces of chaos, even when the forces of order are weak, poorly led, or confused.

That's an interesting excuse. When I said break the police lines I was asking why don't you take the fight to the counter-demonstrators when they inevitably throw stuff at you.

However, if you question my "toughness", in 1997, as a leftist, I beat four Montgomery County Police Officers, three to the point of hospitalization, and served seven months for it, if that makes you feel better.

And I'm sure there are records to prove all of this right?

I also used to crash police lines for fun. Pictures of me doing so abound in news accounts (early edition of the Washington Post in Jan 1998 in Annapolis, FOX News TV video "riots break out during anti-war protests" in Dec 1998, there's a picture of me in Revolutionary Worker from Apr 1998, etc)

See above.

The point being that communist groups are criminal organizations. When I was part of them I fought the police. Since I abandoned the communist ideology and went straight, I stand on the side of order, as does the NSM.

Well that order says you guys ain't getting any of your goals accomplished, so you guys better figure that out sometime in the near future.

Only by the choice of the NSM.

Thanks, then.

All rallies about the white race are about national socialism, because there is no struggle for the white race outside of national socialism. If the rally is not about national socialism, then it is about nothing

Then do some education of the masses of ignorant Whites about NS.

And calling me a Rabbi is productive.

No, it is not. But look at my response to it. I didn't like that comment. But just put your comment and mine side by side. I fielded the comment with something better than the base insult you levied.

Come down to Roanoke and find me. You won't be the first to have done so. Though if you attack me anywhere West of about seventh street, you'll have a riot on your hands.

Look at the post that prompted this, he did EXACTLY like Jeff Schoep: see where he says "you'll have a riot on your hands". It's another "I got PEOPLE" qualifier. White, I would gain no pleasure no pride in telling people how I stomped the sorry, fake-beret wearing ass of some Nazi wannabe who is probably twice my age and quite a bit shorter.

If you look at recent posts you will see that I have given you large share of "benefit of doubt" on this board. I am one of the fairest critics in the movement; and I have and will continue to be fair to you. However, do not continue to insult my intelligence by implying that you could ever be a physical threat to me. At least Schoep looks like he could be a challenge.

Then it will flop. Save the Toledos for somewhere else.

Yeah, cause Toledo was a huge flop.

LOL, I haven't seen one NSM guy in any pics yet that I think could kick my ass.

I think the key words there are "that I think could kick my ass"

So, I ask you once more, are you trying to sabotage this thing now with such inflammatory remarks? Your remarks are more dangerous than the jew. Cease and desist.

Wow, are you missing something? My point was to demonstrate your logical conclusion to show the ridiculousness of your position:

Are those opposed to the NSM so opposed to the uniforms they're willing to try to physically force our guys out?

If we really are the bane of white nationalism, shouldn't those guys be willing to do so, if they believe white nationalism to be that important?

What would be the consequences of doing so? Wouldn't it look ridiculous to the world to see Nazis fighting Nazis (because everyone who attends events like this are "Nazis", whether they like it or not)? Does any group out there want to take on the NSM? Does anyone think we wouldn't take a dim view of people assaulting our members?

The ultimate conclusion being this:

Obviously its not in anyone's best interests to fight over it, so shut the fuck up. The NSM is going to be uniformed. If you don't want to rally with uniformed people, stay home. But stop wasting your breath telling us not to be who and what we are, because its like teaching a pig to dance -- it annoys us and gets you nowhere.

Lol, your Commander doesnt take the same view as you, you insubordinate ass. He is talking about unity and you are here talking about starting a brawl with your fellow Whites. What a dumbass. As eloquent as you speak about National Socialist political philosophy, you sure miss the mark in the common sense department. And spare us the "I made a million" garbage. We are not money grubbing jews here.

Wow. If the point of what I said wasn't flying so clearly over your head, this might be worth responding to.

If you look at recent posts you will see that I have given you large share of "benefit of doubt" on this board. I am one of the fairest critics in the movement]

I'm 6'2" and about 230 lbs and I spent the day today hauling 80 lbs bags of concrete and laying bricks, and I can guarantee I've stomped tougher men that some loud mouthed teen on VNN forum.

That said, given that you're a kid and have no intention of backing up your mouth, I'd say a discussion of who can stomp who is a bit pointless.

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"[color="DarkRed"]Be radical, have principles, [color="darkred"]be absolute, [color="darkred"]be that which the bourgeoisie calls an extremist: give yourself without counting or calculating, [color="darkred"]don't accept what they call ‘the reality of life' and act in such a way that you won't be accepted by that kind of ‘life', never abandon the principle of struggle."

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Oh, and read National Socialist magazine.

 

Obviously its not in anyone's best interests to fight over it, so shut the fuck up. The NSM is going to be uniformed. If you don't want to rally with uniformed people, stay home. But stop wasting your breath telling us not to be who and what we are, because its like teaching a pig to dance -- it annoys us and gets you nowhere.

White, out of curiousity with total sincerity, what would you NSM guys say if a group of WNs, citing reasons you gave in your last post to DTZ, came and physically drove your SA men out of Kingston. If say, half of National Vanguard came out there, told you to leave, you resisted, they beat your ass and throw you guys back to your vans or whatever- what would NSM say about National Vanguard from that point on? Keeping in mind that the NV thugs stated their reason was that they felt NSM's action was a threat to White Nationalism as you stated in your post.